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Post  comedian on Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:33 am

http://www.salon.com/2012/08/13/nbcs_war_for_fun_and_profit/

NBC launches a new reality show where soldiers, Marines, and cops join forces with has beens like ex- boy band stars and that guy Bristol Palin was married to.
I bet this show is popular with military personel, not because of the fawning and ass kissing of the military by the " stars" but because they will laugh their asses off at how retarded the whole thing is.
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Post  Progurt on Tue Aug 14, 2012 11:15 am

And here I was hoping you were saying that public support for the military establishment was at a new low, because that would have been great news.

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Post  gendoikari87 on Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:04 pm

Progurt wrote:And here I was hoping you were saying that public support for the military establishment was at a new low, because that would have been great news.
I'd stop expecting good news for a few decades if I were you. It'll only lead to massive dissapointment

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Post  judgepacker on Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:49 pm

Jeezus. I've been questioning my own interests in military history lately, wondering if it's all been misplaced. Now I feel like I swallowed a cockroach.
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Post  lemur_ on Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:20 pm

judgepacker wrote:Now I feel like I swallowed a cockroach.

Crunchy?
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Post  Progurt on Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:30 pm

judgepacker wrote:Jeezus. I've been questioning my own interests in military history lately, wondering if it's all been misplaced. Now I feel like I swallowed a cockroach.
Funny story: when I was a toddler, I was in the church nursery with my mom. She was holding a crying infant, and looked over to check on me to see me catch a big cockroach on the windowsill, and then shove it into my mouth. She had to carefully put the baby down, and by the time she got to me, all she got out was a couple legs.

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Re: Military Worship Hits A New Low

Post  Fukshot on Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:05 am

HOLY SHIT JUDGE! YOUR AVATAR!

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Post  judgepacker on Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:20 am

Fukshot wrote:HOLY SHIT JUDGE! YOUR AVATAR!

Just getting in the revolutionary spirit. Before the Schulz estate sues the pants off of me.
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Post  Caliman73 on Fri Aug 17, 2012 2:50 pm

judgepacker wrote:Jeezus. I've been questioning my own interests in military history lately, wondering if it's all been misplaced. Now I feel like I swallowed a cockroach.

I don't think that there is a problem with interest in military history. Military history is human history. We have always banded together to fight for resources, or boundaries, or whatever else. As society became more complex, the way we settled conflicts became more formalized. It is interesting to see how those systems developed.

I suppose what would be negative would be if there was a blind devotion and no critical thinking about how the military, including and especially our own, have been used throughout history.

The NBC show is the epitome of the lows in the way military action is seen. It is entertainment used only for ratings, to sell a product (war/militarism) as well as commercial commodities. I think that we should be grateful that people volunteer to serve the country's defense but I don't see is as disrespectful to point out many times in our history, people have gone off to kill and die for no valid reason.

It is kind of like being interested in/liking guns without acknowledging that many horrible things happen as a result of their use/misuse.

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Post  comedian on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:14 pm

Military history is very useful to study, since throughout history war has been so intertwined with politics and economics that it is almost vital to study it.
That's a big problem with left leaning academics- they think they can seperate history into the bits they like to study while completely ignoring the bits they don't. For example, a commie student concentrates on the radical movements of The English Revolution of the 1640s. Levellers, Diggers, Ranters, etc. But how in the hell can you understand where these movements sprang from without studying the Civil Wars that spawned them? Like most catastrophic wars, the English Civil War turned tore apart the old society and people who were formerly disenfranchised began taking on more important roles in the society. How can you understand the comradeship of the levellers without understanding that their close knit bond began in a rank of muskeeters or a pike phalanx?
And on and on. History has to be read as a whole, not as a speciality.
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Post  lemur_ on Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:50 pm

comedian wrote:
And on and on. History has to be read as a whole, not as a speciality.

People doing both is desirable.

Those who claim to be able to handle history as a whole usually fall on their face pretty badly by overestimating how far they can venture into my domain of specialization (which has an historical aspect to it but is not history per se). This is not to say that generalists have nothing to contribute but that it is absolutely not true that we can dispense with specialists.
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